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rfc13
Lucifers Daughter
USA
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 Posted - Oct 14 2003 : 12:01:53 AM
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Sinz,..
I think basic Intellegence can be
passed onto to young "souls"
through DNA, as in IQ and all.
While some older souls may
be born with
"a spiritual knowledge",
and be challenged in other areas.
like a child born retarded who
can move things with their mind.
then again,
there are born geniouses who
have both gifts...
what do you guys think?
Ravin X
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Sinz_of_Flesh
Lucifer's Friend
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 Posted - Oct 14 2003 : 01:33:25 AM
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I agree with that to a degree, but considering my own situation...being born of a "family" that possesses virtually no intellect, knowledge, or anything else to speak of, i cannot fully accept the dna theory.
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rfc13
Lucifers Daughter
USA
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Posted - Oct 15 2003 : 2:48:47 PM
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True, but I wonder if
genetics have anything to do
with how particular ppl
use certain parts of their
brain more than others,
like what we call esp, it
definently seems so with
some talents like art or music.
my family has a few artists
as well as a few witches,
which leads me to think so.
also ive done a bit of reading
on serial killers, and of those
tested, nearly all had the same
chromosome types, making them more
aggressive..
Ravin X
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rfc13
Lucifers Daughter
USA
9666 Posts |
 Posted - Oct 20 2003 : 12:22:13 AM
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I saw a tv special earlier
tonight featuring what witches
do after dark.. haha
of course they said to the masses
that witchcraft is just another
name for wicca. not true. I
couldnt argue with the tv so im
venting here.. 
Ravin X
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Sinz_of_Flesh
Lucifer's Friend
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Posted - Oct 21 2003 : 02:20:02 AM
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well, being somewhat of a psychologist....
among other things...i understand the genetics concept all too well, but, personally i tend to be on more of the nurture side. Of course neither theory allows for fate or the soul.
...and that is exactly why i dont watch tv anymore...except for maybe south park
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Thors Hammer
Witch Knight
USA
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Posted - Oct 23 2003 : 8:18:25 PM
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Reincarnation, can someone share there views on Reincarnation? There our many opinions on this subject. I would like to hear other people ideas. Either for are against.
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Phoenix
Lucifer's Child
USA
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Posted - Oct 23 2003 : 9:52:41 PM
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Hi Thor :)
I am not sure I have a theory as to how Reincarnation happens or even why....I just know what I have observed while helping people recall their own past lives. I take what they remember seriously.....not as something made up in their subconscious as a way to explain something about themselves now. I have regressed people....I have also done readings where I get the images and explain them to the people (regressions being much better because then I know I am not influencing things with my own baggage).
I have done my own regressions, drawing out memories that seemed conflicting at the time. But keeping careful notes I was able to research later the area I remembered living in and the time, along with all the conflicting elements of my memories....and wouldn't you know it....there WERE muslims in the Taklimakin desert (near Tibet, can't remember actual spelling) in the 900's....and there were blond and red headed horse people there too. This just as an example of something I have run into.
Now, I have never researched or had any knowledge of even the name of that desert before....and I know in my heart that reincarnation is real....though others might think I am just being silly.
Phoenix
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Sinz_of_Flesh
Lucifer's Friend
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Posted - Oct 23 2003 : 11:03:18 PM
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My beliefs on reincarnation are relatively simple. every soul has a particular set of lessons to learn, and it revolves until you have attained all the wisdom and knowledge required, perhaps afterwards, moving on to be with the gods.
As for regression, personally I feel that it is a bad idea in general, which isnt to say that its not real. Just that nature has set a mechanism there for us not to remember previous lives, and it should be left alone.
The only real benefit i see from it is to offer people a sense that there is something more out there, and a sense of security in
"knowing" what lives they have lived. I dont,
however, see any true gaining of knowledge or oneself by doing so. For those that want to argue that by understanding such things, one can have a better knowledge of the self;
all I say is that knowing the self comes from
living now, and truly delving into the depths
to understand your nature. Your nature is what really matters, and no amount of regression will help one to attain that knowledge, because the self is also here and now. Regression simply confuses the whole thing, and gives people one more way to say.... "oh, yeah...thats why I am how I am!"
just like with repressed (current life) memories of being raped as a child. It offers
validation and an excuse. Also, for pheonix... not only is it easy to add your baggage to those that you regress, as they are in a much more susceptible state of suggestion; but there have been numerous studies that have shown many repressed and regressed memories to have been planted by the therapist, which is why that process is used in much rarer occassion in courtrooms.
Consider that any shrink that is able to pull
repressed memories in the course of a trial,
and that client wins; it gives the shrink automatic notariety as being an expert and he has much to gain from doing so. Therefore,
it becomes common even for the best of them
to have there own subconscious underminings that could interfere with repressed memories.
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rfc13
Lucifers Daughter
USA
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 Posted - Oct 24 2003 : 9:56:30 PM
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That makes sense too, but
I have yet another theory on it.
Ive done a bit of works with
entity attachment,
anyone familiar with this?
but from my studys and limited
personal experiance, I beleive
if a person is regressed, and
they have a strong attachment,
that the memories may be those
of the attached spirit, and not
of the person being regressed.
its a somewhat confusing thing
to explain...
Ravin X
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rfc13
Lucifers Daughter
USA
9666 Posts |
Posted - Oct 24 2003 : 10:12:38 PM
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Here is an article I
wrote about 5 years ago..
My philosophy has changed
slightly since then, but I
will post it anyway:
Spirit Attachment & Cleansing
In these days of accelerated change,
nearing the year 2012, The year prophesied to be the time of earth changes and ascension, the earth shifts and cleanses itself,
showing us that we need to do the same.
We can prepare ourselves for these changes
by shifting our thoughts, shaking off old beleifs
and undesirable life patterns,
much as earth shifts and cleanses itself by means of earthquakes, floods and hurricanes.
A part of this cleansing is something medicine men and shamans have been doing for ages,
in history it has been called exorcism
and depossession, the releasing of attached spirits.
Often we carry with us the spirits of the deceased, their presence is often so subtle we are unaware of it.
A spirit attachment can happen to anyone, anywhere, anytime.
Spirits find it easiest to find us when we are vulnerable,
under the influence of drugs or alchohol, distressed or otherwise when the aura is weak or torn.
Channeling and Ouija board use are open invitations, Inviting spirits to join you is much easier than asking them to leave.
The spirit may not choose to leave, and may stay for years or even lifetimes.
Spirits that attach to the living can feed off the energy of the person,
leaving them tired, or at worst totally drained.
These spirits are stuck between dimensions,
sometimes lost, have unresolved issues, physical addictions or other ties to this world.
A spirit who has done much wrong in their last life may avoid moving on for fear of punishment or being damned to "hell" for things they may have done.
They simply have not moved on to their proper place.
Suicides, realizing their mistake, often stay for this reason, if not to comfort their loved ones.
Murder and accident victims often die so fast, they do not realize they have died. Deceased partners cling to their mates, fulfilling their promise to never leave them, to always be there.
What these spirits arent seeing is that they cannot spiritually evolve on this plane,
they must move on to continue their spiritual lessons.
This is where we can be of service to both the spirits and to ourselves, by releasing them, and calling upon the guiding
spirits to show them their rightful place.
Often an attached spirit will alter our behavior, sometimes intentionlly, sometimes not.
When spirits are attached to us we may perceive their thoughts
and feelings as our own, even acting upon them,
altering our behavior and detouring us from our true will.
Spirit attachments are a blockage to both parties.
An example; (A spirit who had an alchoholic addiction in their life, may prey on a human, influencing the human to drink so
that the spirit may indulge their appetite through the human)
Spirit attachments are not only the deceased, but also elemental thought forms, aliens, and demonic beings;
although a full blown demonic possession is rare.
Most attachments are easily released, yet some can take years.
One method is through hypnosis;
where the therapist would regress the patient,
asking unexpectedly such questions as,
"and at what point did you join with him/her?"
catching the entity off guard, they will answer honestly, exposing themselves.
Many will be defensive, not wanting to be bothered.
During past life regression,
when reaching the point of death,
the patient may not recall any transition.
When this happens the therapist may be recalling the past life
of an attached entity rather than that of the patient.
Attachments can also be released through hands on healing.
The healer will pick up images, and if possible, guide the spirit on psychically.
Historically, exorcisms have been performed incompletly, with little or no regard to the attached spirit,
seeking only to free the human, and leaving the spirit free to attach to its next host, or to just return again after the exorcism.
This is only temporarily effective.
As more and more people understand why and how this happens, slowly we can all be cleansed and evolve to our rightful place.
Pendulum testing is very accurate in diagnosing attachments, as is kinseology, spiritual healing and hypnosis.
Ravin X
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Sinz_of_Flesh
Lucifer's Friend
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Posted - Oct 25 2003 : 01:49:37 AM
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I agree with you, as usual, Ravin. hadnt thought about that in that regard, but understand entirely, and its very valid. Im wondering what your thoughts are on attachments from spirits actually still living in the physical realm (people).... of course im not just talking about soul mates or even the spiritual/emotional vampires; but more specifically one who has a strong enough soul, and seeks out to attach themselves to another..... what do you think?
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rfc13
Lucifers Daughter
USA
9666 Posts |
Posted - Oct 25 2003 : 02:29:31 AM
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Hey Sinz!
I think thats possible..
I really hadnt considered
it before. but, hey, theres
no real boundrys for the spirit
(that im aware of).
but why would a spirit attach
themself to someone
they didnt know? It would
explain certain dreamstates
where you know the ppl but you
dont in everyday life..
I will be thinking about that..
(im going camping, will be back
late sunday,
you Have a great weekend!)
Ravin X
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Sinz_of_Flesh
Lucifer's Friend
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Posted - Oct 25 2003 : 02:33:11 AM
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I can think of a few reasons for wanting to do that...although, not entirely with the best intentions. Have fun camping...think of me, cause ill be at work all weekend; i didnt get to go camping once this summer:-(
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Phoenix
Lucifer's Child
USA
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Posted - Oct 26 2003 : 8:28:34 PM
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Sinz and Reincarnation and Regressions
As I have learned and grown wiser, I have found that I have done less and less readings for people of any sort, past life included. Even on myself.
At first, when I started giving readings and came to realize that I can see things in my head that other people can't necessarily access on a day to day level, I had to prove to myself that yes I could do it. Past life readings were the same way. I could do it, so I did. Making myself feel better.
But then I got trapped in the past. Forever looking further and further back. Who am I? I would ask while looking into the past.....and all I could answer is "that is who i was." It hasn't been but this last 6 months that I have stopped looking back and have started trying to center myself in the here and now. I found comfort in the past and hurt my present self by not living fully.
Ravin and Entity Possession and Attatchment
I became aware of this a couple of years ago and find it most fascinating. I have run into it a few times with people I have been working with. I bought a book about it but haven't finished reading it....but apparently not only can they influence drug or alcohol use and/or abuse but also food cravings such as sweets or spicy foods, things like that. They also tend to feed off of strong emotions like anger, sexually passionate feelings and even severe depression and will force their hosts to indulge in these things.
Next time I run into one of these guys I am gonna try pendulum work....fascinating :)
Phoenix
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Sinz_of_Flesh
Lucifer's Friend
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Posted - Oct 26 2003 : 10:18:23 PM
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Phoenix, im glad youve come to that realization. I definitely understand exploring those gifts, and it is useful to learn more about yourself and others. From your experiences though, im sure you now understand exactly what i was saying.
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rfc13
Lucifers Daughter
USA
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Posted - Oct 27 2003 : 12:38:07 AM
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Phoenix, Thats Right on,..
The Spirits must be feasting
with me "in a big way" lately,
Ive been in indulgence mode.
Hey Sinz, I just realized
where you got your signature
quote.. Kewl!
Ravin X
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rfc13
Lucifers Daughter
USA
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 Posted - Oct 27 2003 : 3:05:26 PM
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Happy Samhain you guys!
Anyone having a ritual?
I'll be back on
next saturday, so have a
great week... and Happy Halloween!
Ravin X
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Sinz_of_Flesh
Lucifer's Friend
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Posted - Oct 27 2003 : 8:10:51 PM
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U 2, Ravin! Going to the ocean (of course)
for mine...looks like it will be a double calling!
I have never seen a vision, nor learned a secret that would damn or save my soul. |
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godfraud
The Antichrist
USA
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Posted - Oct 28 2003 : 12:09:22 AM
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Now Phoenix and sinz...... ravin knows me
And knows i never mean to contradict somebody or argue,flame or slam.........
But it just sounds like another way to pass the blame or/and pass the guilt, it's not my fault I’m fat, or stupid, drunk, an asshole, it's not my fault i rolled up on
Little ol' ms.baker raped her old ass and took her purse, it was a spiritual attachment with a chip on it's shoulder----
I take full responsibility for my actions
And so should everyone else, i enjoy my over the top anger "problem" i enjoy inflicting pain - or what have you........ I’m only sorry when it benefits me and my selfish desire to say so............ now i know you all are just talking about it, but in essence it sounds like an excuse / a way To pass the blame for your or someone else’s
Fallacies --Brutal? or honest
I don’t give a fuck about the Hollywood elite
I don’t really care if models can’t fucking eat If that reflects reality then pass another drink
you try to be a millionare, I’ll vomit in the sink |
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Sinz_of_Flesh
Lucifer's Friend
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Posted - Oct 28 2003 : 12:20:41 AM
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umm...what the hell r u talking about. Who is passing blame and how?
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